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    CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

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    Pedro Mazuelas

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    CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  Pedro Mazuelas on Fri Mar 02 2012, 19:47

    Sorry for not knowing English, to translate it.

    INTENSExINTENSE=HOMOCIGOTIC little short plume, but a very intense lipochrome. they are used to work with them and get foals with good colour(not for competitions, only for work with them)


    HOMOCIGOTICxINTENSE=Good color more intense. (perfect for competitions)





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    Re: CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  Red devil on Sat Mar 03 2012, 08:09

    Pedro Mazuelas wrote:Sorry for not knowing English, to translate it.

    INTENSExINTENSE=HOMOCIGOTIC little short plume, but a very intense lipochrome. they are used to work with them and get foals with good colour(not for competitions, only for work with them)


    HOMOCIGOTICxINTENSE=Good color more intense. (perfect for competitions)






    I think this sentence should read

    INTENSExINTENSE=HOMOCIGOTIC little short plume, but a very intense lipochrome. they are used to work with them and get chicks with good colour(not for competitions, only for work with them)
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    Re: CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  Ninetails on Sat Mar 03 2012, 12:06

    [quote="Red devil"]
    Pedro Mazuelas wrote:Sorry for not knowing English, to translate it.

    INTENSExINTENSE=HOMOCIGOTIC little short plume, but a very intense lipochrome. they are used to work with them and get foals with good colour(not for competitions, only for work with them)


    HOMOCIGOTICxINTENSE=Good color more intense. (perfect for competitions)

    I think this sentence should read

    INTENSExINTENSE=HOMOCIGOTIC little short plume, but a very intense lipochrome. they are used to work with them and get chicks with good colour(not for competitions, only for work with them)



    Yes but, should this "HOMOCIGOTIC x INTENSE=Good color more intense. (perfect for competitions)" have read Homocigotic X Non Intense??
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    Re: CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  zipdogso on Sat Mar 03 2012, 17:43

    The only "spanner in the works" I can see with this is that when you pair intensive to intensive only 1 in 3 (Theoretically. here we go again......) of the intensives are homozygous the rest are normal heterozygous intensive.
    So my question is .... is the difference between the heterozygous and homozygous intensives really as easy to spot as he says ??? assuming he cherry-picked those feathers in the video to highlight his point.

    Ninetails wrote:

    Yes but, should this "HOMOCIGOTIC x INTENSE=Good color more intense. (perfect for competitions)" have read Homocigotic X Non Intense??

    When using a homozygous intensive as one of the parents it doesn't matter too much whether you use intensive or non-intensive the result is the same.....only intensives are produced. (or homozygous intensives as the case may be.)
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    Re: CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  Ninetails on Sun Mar 04 2012, 12:43

    Well this is where I get confused.
    Pedro says that he breeds intensive to intensive but the young are not for show, being of little short feather, but essential for his breeding program.
    If he then breeds the short feathered birds to another intensive the feathers are likely to be shorter again and even less likely to be show quality.
    Logic suggests that the short feathered bird should be paired back to a longer feathered or non intensive bird to get back to the show quality.

    Btw, nice pic in your avi Zip.
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    Re: CANARIES HOMOCIGOTIC INTENSE YELLOWS, YELLOW SNOW-COVERED OR INTENSE YELLOW

    Post  zipdogso on Sun Mar 04 2012, 13:54

    The way I see it....
    The aim of his breeding is to lengthen the smooth bit at the top of the feather which will provide more colour. The feathers will overlap more at the visual point i.e. the tip, deepening the visual colour...well that's my theory.
    So that short feather he is talking about is the bit at the top of the feather - the smooth bit. So I think you are looking at this the wrong way. He is not talking about the full feather length, per se.
    When he writes "little short feather" I think it is all the same subject, I don't think he means there is not much short feather
    And on hindsight (in light of my own explaination.) yes it would be Homozygous Intensive to Intensive to lengthen the "short feather" more.
    But as I say that is just my interpretation (wish I knew Spanish !) I could be wrong.....

    Thr avatar is one of the few Cock Lizards I bred last year, it is a cock, the photo is before 1st moult.

    The hard drive with most of my canary pictures on that I took before my DSLR died is kaputt, so this about the only picture I have because I put it on another machine as the desktop.

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