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Post  david r on Wed Oct 28 2009, 00:02

How would you inprove the feather quality and colour of an flighted int/red cock Question Question
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Post  David McCool on Wed Oct 28 2009, 07:49

Laughing Thats better
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Post  david r on Fri Oct 30 2009, 21:43

come on every one can you tell me.
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Post  David McCool on Fri Oct 30 2009, 22:58

I think David once you have bred your int red cock bird and it reaches flighted stage it would be nearly impossible to improve the feather quality and colour at this stage.

I think we may have to go further back in the birds creation, if improvement is to be made.

careful selection and thoughtful pairings of the correct colour and feather quality must be found, as a reasonable starting point.
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Post  Spiros on Sat Oct 31 2009, 13:29

Hi David
Well, the next chance to improve the feather quality and color in this case is to wait until the next molt and provide the bird a good and appropriate molt management.
By giving extra B compex vitamins, amino acids and adding some gold of pleasure seeds you can improve the feather quality and force the bird to finish its molt easily. The gold of pleasure helps the feathering to have a silky appearance.
In addition at this time using the appropriate amount of coloring agents, such as intesief from Bogena, you can achieve good results in general.
As you can see all this molting aspect is very contextual to the nutrition, provided by the breeder.
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Post  brian meichan on Sat Jan 02 2010, 15:31

can someone tell me what gold of pleasure is. scratch
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Post  GeoffW on Sat Jan 02 2010, 15:42

A small golden coloured seed from a thistle like plant. Normally found in condition food mixtures
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Post  brian meichan on Sat Jan 02 2010, 16:29

thanks Geoff i have never heard of it.
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Post  brian meichan on Sat Jan 02 2010, 17:53

do u feed this seed at molt on its own and how much
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Post  GeoffW on Sat Jan 02 2010, 19:30

I do not know of anyone who does Brian, infact I find that this is usually the last seed to be eaten from the condition mix
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Post  brian meichan on Sun Jan 03 2010, 09:05

geoff foniopaddy seed have uheard of it . i was told it stops birds from going lite.???
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Post  GeoffW on Sun Jan 03 2010, 16:14

First mention of this seed occurred around 10 years ago. It was claimed by the one breeder who posted about the product that it was a wonderful conditioner and a preventative/curer of coccidiosis which is one of the problems associated with going light.
It is available from a couple of seed merchants over here, but they use the 2001 report from the French breeder I have mentioned as a recommendation. I have no first hand experience with the seed, but considering it is now a decade since it first came to light and it is still virtually unknown I have doubts over it's value
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Post  brian meichan on Sun Jan 03 2010, 16:48

Hi Geoff. I have acquired some of this seed recently from a stall holder at the scottish national. I was asking him about conditioing seed for birds and he mentioned foniopaddy. He told me that the seed comes from Ghana? He said the seed was a study of a french ornathologist who watched birds feeding on the seed and seemed to show an increase in vigour. I have been using the seed for 2 weeks now and have noticed a difference in the birds in the cold weather. (I have no heating in my hut) I give them a small amount in a finger drawer 3 times a week. Do you think this is too much?
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Post  GeoffW on Sun Jan 03 2010, 17:26

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Post  brian meichan on Sun Jan 03 2010, 17:50

cheers 4 that Geoff that was good reading.
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Post  David McCool on Sun Jan 03 2010, 18:01

How much is this seed?
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Post  BreedmaxMan on Tue Jan 05 2010, 02:10

Brian, as a preventative I use ESB 3 a sulfonamide about this time of the year also after the breeding season diluted in water for 5 days, eliminates Coccidiosis (going light) very affectively. Going light is only a memory of the past for me!
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Post  brian meichan on Tue Jan 05 2010, 16:45

WHERE do u get it .Breedmax.
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Post  BreedmaxMan on Tue Jan 05 2010, 23:31

I travel a lot in Europe, whenever I am near the Dutch border I go to the nearest pharmacy and purchase over the counter.

However in this country it is prescription only medication (POM),
you would have to go to your Vets for treatment.

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